Hopefully this kind of post isn’t too tired, but I figure it’s my turn:
Finally decided to, after absolutely refusing to upgrade to 11, make the jump from Win10 to Linux! Been hopping around distros a bit and landed on EndeavourOS last night and I’m really enjoying it so far.
It’s definitely tinkery and took me like 2 hours just to get my push to talk working in Discord (mostly due to my own lack of knowledge), but I love the level of control of everything you have (was on Pop!_OS before 🤮, edit: no hate, just wasn’t for me!)
There’s definitely never been a better time to switch and I’m very excited for when I inevitably brick my shit and come back here for help, so thanks in advance everyone! :)
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You can’t say you use Arch unless you use Arch. Also, you are also saying it all wrong. It’s “I use Arch, BTW” not “BTW, I use Arch”. You would know that if you used Arch. Have I mentioned I use Arch, BTW?
Clicked in this post because of the wallpaper.
Stayed here for the polemic.
Searching the wallpaper, now.
in case you haven’t found it yet
EndeavourOS club! Gorgeous blend between granular control and reasonably configured initial guardrails for a willing-to-learn new Arch user.
I played around with other distros too, before settling into this one. Haven’t looked back after 2-3 years of use.
Yea im about to switch myself. Been looking at suggestions and stuff, probably gonna start with Mint myself.
Many different sources advise putting it on a flashdrive first and loading from there, to start. Make sure I like it.
But the end goal, eventually, would be to remove windows from the comp entirely, right? Eventually installing my chosen distro as the OS on the computer itself? Does that sound about right?
For me, I’ve been throwing distros on a spare SSD so I could test run in a proper install, but I’m sure a thumbdrive would be fine. Just keep in mind that you might get some hangs and things will be slower due to the speed of the drive, rather than the inefficiencies of the OS you end up on. If you want to test out specific programs or games or something, you can always do what I did and put them on a separate faster storage drive (I’m on SATA SSD for my OS right now, but am putting other things on NVME).
As I mentioned elsewhere, I still have my Windows on another drive so I can boot to it if I need to, but I honestly haven’t needed to even once since switching, so I’ll probably end up just switching to VM only for anything that requires Windows fairly soon here.
The transition has been much simpler and smoother than I ever had imagined.
Thanks. I did read that from the boot drive it would be slower, and missing some features. Im looking to go slow so thats fine by.
You kept windows on another drive, like a hard drive in the comp? Or a thumb drive?
Glad to hear the transition was smooth. That seems to be the general opinon. Its just sometimes reading conversations between people who have been on linux awhile, or maybe work in IT or programming, I get a little nervous. Kernals and directories and other things that I know are words but have no idea what the mean in the computer world.
yes
I’ve been hopping between different distros since 2023, but every time I come back to EndeavourOS, this distro seems to work the best for me, haven’t had any problems with this distro.
Welcome to your GNU/Linux jounery.
Before you distro hop again, take your time exploring the os and terminal it will make installing the real arch linux easier.
No hoping needed anymore once you landed on a Arch base!
I’ve been using EndeavourOS for awhile now and it’s really good. Everything more or less just works.
That’s amazing! Why shit on Pop!_OS though? I’ve always liked it. I think it’s definitely more stable than Arch in the long term
Honestly, it seems really stable and works great, I just hate how…hand holdy it felt for me personally. I think the emoji was a little over the top. My apologies, haha. It’s totally fine for what it is, and if it works for you, that’s fantastic!
Yeah, I don’t love the aesthetic of Pop OS out of the box but with a minimal set of GNOME extensions I really like it. Which actually, is the case for me on vanilla GNOME too.
I’d like to be an Arch person, but on the only device I’ve used it on, I’ve had some major breakages happen a couple of times. Took months for the issues to get resolved. Which honestly, as hard as software is, let alone OSes, is a great track record. Most teams could only keep stability specifically with these long/major release schedules like everyone else essentially does it.
Right now, I still have Windows as dual boot in case things go sideways or I run into road blocks with work, but my plan is to move all of that to a VM in the near future (and ideally an actual work supplied machine with a KVM eventually). At that point, I could see myself falling back onto something like Pop!_OS as a stable side install if/when my main OS is having issues and I just want to play a game and not bash my head against a console for 5 hours.
Sorry to be so seemingly unfair to Pop OS, what it does it does do quite well, just not for me as a main driver.
Gotcha. I don’t think you are being unfair.
yeah; I also use Pop!_OS and like it. I’m curious about the reasoning here
The only thing I don’t like about it is being behind on gnome since their DE is a forked older version of gnome afaik. Especially for recent gnome extensions, it’s not always the most amenable. But mostly even on that front it’s workable
I don’t think I’ve really seen it hated on much
Arch is plenty stable
I think it’s very stable for what it is. But I still had it break remote desktop, wifi functionality, and something about graphics that caused weird glitches in Firefox. These issues all took months to fix, each. For most tech savvy people it’s probably stable enough but for the less common hardware, the only reason I could keep using and updating it was by leveraging timeshift. I would update everything, test if my issue was solved, see it still present then rollback. I did that process dozens of times.
I have never had anything in Arch take months to fix. One tip I would have is to use both the latest kernel and an LTS. If something “breaks” with a kernel module, just boot into LTS and it is probably fine there. I also had an issue with WiFi for about a week but a quick reboot into LTS and I was good to go immediately. When I tried the latest kernel two weeks later, it had been fixed there. Something similar happened with my FaceTimeHD camera. Same solution.
Hmm, I’m not aware of those tracks or how they work. I only really was able to install arch from a specific guide because the device is a raspberry pi 5
Welcome aboard, I also first started with beginners friendly distro (around 1 years ago), Fedora is my first ever distro then I started distro hopping and landed on vanilla Arch, that’s what I’m stick with until now
I’ve always sworn by Arch builds. Built one up from scratch back in college ten years ago, and this past winter I decided I wanted to try a linux box again. After a bit of distro hopping I settled on CachyOS, but Endeavor caught my eye too.
Shit breaks, but fixing it is a learning experience. Small price to pay in exchange for the customization it offers.
helpful if you want to install arch without endeavor ☞ Archfi and Archdi - Two bash scripts for Arch Linux Installation by OldTechBloke
somebody on lemmy regularly posted videos of OldTechBloke while they’re archiving the channel on peertube.
Interesting. I made the equivalent of this for installing Arch on raspberry pi 5. Maybe I should make them public.
Why use this instead of just archinstall? I’ve been using Arch for many years but I have used archinstall for at least the last few years and it always goes smoothly.