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  • Helix 🧬@feddit.orgEnglish
    603·
    4 months ago

    And this, people, is why we should extensively teach fascist and colonialist history. Bet >90% of Americans don’t know this. Many don’t seem to have an issue with Stephen Miller’s Nazi rhetoric, or Trump speeches often suspiciously sounding like the ones from a certain Austrian painter. They simply don’t recognise simple patterns like this.

    I don’t think the author is at fault at all. I would rather ask their educators about what the fuck they were doing that this person doesn’t know these words.

    • comfy@lemmy.ml
      241·
      4 months ago

      To take this a step further, wolf-whistles (neo-Nazi dog-whistles) are often intentionally vague, and spotting them is important in recognizing cryptofascists because they will try and claim plausible deniability, “oh leftists call everyone a nazi” is something open nazis say to downplay themselves to other reactionaries. They know that their beliefs are still unspeakably disgusting to most societies, they tend to disguise it, downplay it and rationalize it.

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      Sometimes it’s language and phrases itself, you can often see cryptofascists use the same phrases, euphemisms or odd terms as famous fascist speeches or texts, whether as an intentional subtle allusion or just unwittingly echoing what they’ve read. And that’s where they’ll chuck in terms like “Final solution” in memes.

      Other times, it’s more direct coded language and symbols. It’s probably less unknown these days, but some common examples of codes are the sonnenrad ‘Black Sun’ symbol, Nazi-era pseudo-runes (not to be confused with legitimate historical Germanic runes!), the numbers 14 and 88, and more.

    • non_burglar@lemmy.world
      51·
      4 months ago

      Bet >90% of Americans don’t know this.

      Considering that pcmr (PC Master Race) is now an acceptable term on reddit and now elsewhere, I’d say you were right.

      • False@lemmy.world
        7·
        4 months ago

        When that whole thing started up Nazis seemed a lot less “real” imo. I liked it better when they occupied a similar space as pirates and ninjas…

    • Xartle@lemmy.ml
      12·
      4 months ago

      I don’t know that I agree with that. Nazis suck, but just because they are trending at the moment doesn’t seem like a great reason to spend time dwelling in their ideology. Lots of people have done lots of ghastly things and you can’t unknow some of them. And now they live rent free in your head on the off chance someone’s words collide with an old phrase.

      I don’t have a great answer, but I would have been happier if we taught people to recognize what fascism actually is and how to stop it rather than focusing on the icons and word choice of one set of awful people.

    • Steve Dice@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      4 months ago

      Lunduke really went fucking crazy. It’s wild watching his feed and remembering he’s the same guy from Linux sucks.