• jenesaisquoi@feddit.org
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    3 months ago

    Many cities in Switzerland are implementing the same, but there is significant opposition from the rural areas. I hope we will arrive at 30km/h in all urban areas.

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      3 months ago

      Hot take: Rural drivers shouldn’t get a say in how urban roads are designed

      It’s not their city. They don’t live in it. They can stay in their town if they don’t like it

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        3 months ago

        That sounds fair but urban people don’t seem to have any issue with forcing their opinions on speed limits on rural people. If it works one way then why not the other?

      • insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Is it not crazy to think that people in rural areas also enjoy the city and go to urban areas? It’s still the same country.

        • sunbytes@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          As visitors though. I don’t think their needs are irrelevant, but they shouldn’t carry as much weight as the daily users’

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            3 months ago

            So the inhabitants of small towns driving daily to work to the next city get a say? I don’t know about Switzerland, but in my area these are a considerate amount, if not the majority of cars in smaller cities. Most don’t need a car living in the city, but you cannot commute into the city without in most cases.

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              3 months ago

              Would you consider someone who uses the road daily as a daily user?

              If so, re-reading my comment will provide a solution.

          • insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            Not sure it’s visiting necessarily if it’s their nearest urban center, as then it would be their main source of a lot of stuff so it’s theirs too.

      • Manfredolin@feddit.org
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        3 months ago

        They are.

        For any built up area with appropriate signage, the urban speed limit gets applied.

        Also a large chunk of the rural population is commuting by car, and has to change their (driving) habits, and changing habits takes effort.

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            3 months ago

            It’s different in Europe. When they say “rural”, they mean any small town not adjacent to a city or other conurbation.

            The density of small towns that have hundreds of years of history but are only 5-10km apart from the next 3-4 towns surrounding it are in a stark contrast to the 20-50km distances between North American towns. And rural farms are relatively rare. Farmers generally still live in the small town and then drive their tractor out to the fields.