What a coincidence that the MAGA USA’s policy towards Europe is almost indistinguishable from Russia’s!
The American policy has been exactly this long before Trump. The literal main and pretty much only obstacle to a European army and a European Federation has been the USA, constantly using their leverage and economic/military power to block any such plans from progressing.
Why would US billionaires hand over control of their country to Russia? They can’t be that incompetent and elections are not free enough that it could happen against their will.
It’s not coincidence, but I doubt the Russian influence.
Because a) he’s a Russian asset (apparently) and b) they have incriminating evidence on him and probably a bunch of other billionaires. Also, if they could spend a few billion in return for control of pretty much they would, they’d be willing to pay for it.
a) he’s a Russian asset (apparently
Apparently. It must be part of Flooding the Zone. Everybody has an explanation that is useless because it hides the real motives. Why would the elite accept a known Russian asset? It’s a rumor since the 80ies.
incriminating evidence
Against all billionaires? As in the KGB could have won if they would have had it 10 years earlier? The US billionaires own the media. What could happen if something comes out?
if they could spend a few billion in return for control of pretty much they would, they’d be willing to pay for it.
True, but how could they outspend US billionaires?
Fuck outta here ya nazi russian bootlicker. if I seen or heard you say this in real life they will never remove my foot from your ass
By which reason? Do I say anything positive about Russia?
What’s your reason to believe that Trump is a Russian asset?
I can’t explain how the US billionaires could accept Trump. Please explain to me how that can be possible.
They want to control you, it’s the story of history, live free or die trying, fuck trump, hang billionaires, putin suicide him outta window like he’s done to many others. Never bow to any man
They can’t be that incompetent
Have you seen these billionaires? They absolutely can. The myth of their competence is pure propaganda.
Also, they like corruption because it offers many opportunities for those with enough money to pay. And they like oppression of workers because it provides a ready pool of cheap labour to exploit.
They’ll be looking at Russia and liking what they see, because they don’t see themselves being the ones working for pennies and being sent to die in Ukraine. And they all think they’re the smartest guy in the world (“why else would I have so much money?”) so they don’t see themselves being fucked over by Putin either. For them Russia is the promise of doing whatever you want, taking advantage of whomever you want, and getting whatever you want.
Have you seen these billionaires
Only videos, but they don’t seem to be stupid.
They’ll be looking at Russia and liking what they see
Even if they do, why hand over the country? They control the US.
For them Russia is the promise of doing whatever you want, taking advantage of whomever you want, and getting whatever you want.
What can’t be done in the US?
Only videos, but they don’t seem to be stupid.
Elon Musk and Donald Trump have proven that intelligence, competence, and charisma are not important factors in someone becoming obscenely wealthy.
They are not representative. Most billionaires act differently.
Yes, most billionaires keep quiet. Doesn’t change the fact that just because they are billionaires that doesn’t mean they can’t also be complete idiots.
Some are, but without hard evidence I don’t believe that they knowingly have let a Russian asset come to power who hands over the US to Russia.
Other things are happening and Trump’s Russia connections are a distraction.
Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland
There, saved you a click.
3/4 Fascist. What a coincidence.
If you assume every country is a US-style presidential autocracy, 4/4.
All filled with either Russian or American assets, maybe except Poland to some extent. But even that is likely to change after the next elections.
Europe needs to rally together to survive this. Russia is beatable, but you need to activate.
I wonder what Europe meddling in American elections is going to look like
If it’s as inept as their defense strategy don’t expect much
You overestimate the independence of Europe. This is all flooding the zone while the US rebuild Europe anyway.
Given what it took to put that particular beast to sleep, a lot of leaders are nervous to wake it back up.
I agree something needs to be done, but the idea of a militant Europe again is a worrying thought.
Too many years being nanied by the US…
Hey UK, how is brexit going?
It has taught a lot of Brits how good being in the EU was (by taking away the benefits). All the “advantages” have also evaporated like pixy dust.
Crap. Absolute crap.
And we’re down in growth by 6% to 8% according to economists.
Oh no, Trump, please. Please don’t convince Hungary to leave. Anyone but Hungary! They’re the economic and democratic backbone of the EU.
According to a leaked version of the Trump administration’s US national security strategy, the White House is planning to call on Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland to quit the EU.
I wonder where Poland would be without the EU…
I mean Hungary already acts like it’s not part of it when it comes to anything regarding foreign policies. At this point I’m they seem to just be mooching off the economic benefits.
I don’t think they’d quit though. They’re benefiting too much. They bark but won’t bite I think.
I mean Hungary already acts like it’s not part of it
Or they do, and everybody else acts as if the EU has to be a country like the US.
Unanimous means that a country cannot be forced to act against their will. That was the promise of the EU, economic benefits with political independence. Demanding more is bait and switch.
You have a bunch of crap takes up and down this thread.
In which way do you disagree?
I noticed that nearly everything that I saw that was ill conceived, misleading, inaccurate or downright wrong, missing the while point, or just plain nasty in this thread was written by you.
Thanks for the feedback. I will try to scale down the nastyness but I have no idea how to be more correct. As far as I know my statements are correct. What do you think is wrong? E.g. in this thread, originally, the countries were supposed to be independent. Of course, some people have always wanted the EU to be a single country, but that’s not how it was sold.
Of course, some people have always wanted the EU to be a single country, but that’s not how it was sold.
In 1993?! Or 1957?! Make the EU the EEC again!? The only good way to live is in the past? Back to the golden age of low consumer, worker and human rights! Less economic power and regulatory influence globally! Yay! /s
How reactionary is that?
But it’s not just that. It’s the other bad takes. They’re nearly all yours.
Austria
So this is it, this is how Trump finally starts WW3
IMO: the Americans are adversaries now.
The American government, absolutely. They’ve been pretty open about it.
I don’t think Poland would ever actually leave the EU. Every poll says that poles love being in it even if the far right complains a ton. As someone who lived in Poland between 2005 and 2020 the improvements from being in the EU are so noticeable it would be suicide for the country to actually leave.
Step 1 to Making Europe Great Again: Ignore every idea that comes directly from a Make America Great Again mouth piece.
Step 2: Educate the member states’ populations so they stop voting in fascists.
Step 3: Congratulations, you’re done!
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Who needs enemies when you have friends like this?
also suggest the US is attempting to create a new elite of five “Core” countries, known as the C5, to replace the G7.
These countries would be the US, China, India, Japan and Russia.
The #1, 2, 4, 5, and 9 economies.
In any other world, where facts actually matter, “friends” like this would be called what they are: Enemies.
Isn’t Trump’s whole thing about stopping foreigners from interfering with your country and cultural erosion? Why’s he enforcing HIS ideals on others?
Introspection and understanding hypocrisy is the furthest thing I would expect from him
Typical ultranationalist hypocrisy
You know what would be to make europe great again? It would be getting rid of the united snakes and it’s proxy in the middle east
Poland, Hungary. Could he really imagine that they would ever serve HIM? (and not his boss in the east)
Austria LOL. Delusional. They dream of the swiss way.
Italy. They may be right wing, but never that stupid.
And we’re simping for FUCKING Russian interests‽
Lots of people are brainwashed by social media.
Such a shame that famous people are not jailed for spreading lies
Who needs enemies with allies like these?