• Cyrus Draegur@lemmy.zip
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    France ought to know better than any country that appeasement never turns out well when it comes to fascists.

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    Neville Chamberlain tried to appease Hitler by letting him remilitarize the Rhineland, annex Austria and invade Czechoslovakia. Look at how well that worked out.

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      It’s worth remembering specifically why appeasement doesn’t work. The one trying to appease the egotistical bully thinks the bully had limited goals , so if you grant some fraction of that you can avoid their aggression. In reality, bullies don’t have limited goals (they will take exactly as much as they think they can take and no less) and only see appeasement as weakness, which further drives their aggression. That is why appeasement always leads to disaster beyong the immediate short term - it shows you can be successfully leveraged and threatened and so it invites more leveraging and threats.

      I hate to use this example but Star Trek Discovery rather clumsily covered this concept in the first season in the Klingon war. The Vulcans realized that Klingons see war and conquest as an inherent part of their culture, and exploiting weakness in others is one of their core beliefs. So they adopted the policy of shoooting at any Klingon vessels on sight (“the Vulcan Hello”) , and the Klingons left them alone.

      It’s anathema for people who believe in peace which is why the Federation couldn’t bring themselves to behave this way. It took ruthless logical analysis to arrive at that course of action.

  • D_C@sh.itjust.works
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    I’ve been saying this since about 2017, about 18 months after the orange child rapist was elected the first time.
    Any country that elects a person that’s obviously stupid, 100% corrupt, and completely evil cannot be trusted.

    Boris Johnson is another shitbag of corrupt disgustingness, but not as bad americas top paedo. I’m English, and I never wanted to leave the EU but I can totally understand if the EU said “Nope” just based on bozo Boris alone.