God, I hate posting a Reddit comment, but this is huge. Every claim is sourced (I have not verified personally).
Edit: Well, Reddit does what reddit does, it’s been removed. Here is a github link: https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/985257
I deploy hundreds of docker containers every day that run general purpose operating systems. These bills seem dumb at a fundamental level regardless of the terrible privacy implications.
And then some kid buys a used raspberry pi or wipes an old computer and circumvents it all anyway.
I’m glad to have an answer that allows me to direct my hate. Problem is, I already hated Facebook and The Heritage foundation.
Same -_-
I miss the old internet. It’s the most conservative thing I’ll ever say.
Or go straight to the linked github page which seems to be where they’re storing all the data and analysis
https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
TY for your service.
So Meta (and their allies) are actively pushing and lobbying (illegally, if you look at DCA that doesn’t even exist?) for laws that force operating systems to build a permanent age API thats full time accessible for apps?
Why not use a digital identity wallet like Europe : You can prove that you are 18+ without sharing your date of birth, name, or other information (via zero-knowledge proofs), it’s like a confirmation paper from a bank or another institution without any actual information about yourself. Plus there’s parental consent to children’s accounts (as COPPA in the U.S. already does), or like by doing verification locally or through open-source systems, not through commercial companies with a central Database.
They knowingly ignore better, more privacy friendly alternatives to age verification because by forcing operating systems to implement a permanent age API, they create a system that burdens competitors like Apple and Google, while their own platforms are often excluded. This fits into a broader strategy to normalize surveillance and increase dependence on commercial verification companies, which Meta indirectly benefits from.
I dont really see this changing, I expect meta getting away with everything and getting worse cause look at the inauguration. But musk also got booted so who knows. But in the end America usually doesnt care about customer rights, privacy rights, or childrens rights ig.
The idea of a national ID would never pass in the US. Both parties are against it for various reasons.
Well it would facilitate ICE’s work somewhat.
Why not, not do age verification at all?
I don’t want the government or any corporation involved in verifying anything about me online.
Github is MS, so better save it while you still can.
Codeberg mirror is quick and easy to set up, /u/lmmarsano@group.lt !
Thank you for this. Like, I heard a bit about this but set it aside as “to be researched later” without realizing how far along the stupidity had gotten.
That’s an impressive investigation.
It would be tough to find a better example of why lobbying in the US is fundamentally broken. An entity like Meta has ample funding to break up an operation into distinct cells that do not directly interact in public forums, while tracking the whole process in documents protected by ACP. I think it’s particularly telling that Meta lobbyists are quietly nodding along legislation pushed by “grass roots” activists and that Meta’s new OS just happens to implement the technology exactly as described in the law.
It’s that sort of coordinated effort that the RICO act was drafted specifically to address, but it’s perfectly legal.
while tracking the whole process in documents protected by ACP.
ACP?
Attorney-Client Privilege. Sorry, I should have just said it.
For anyone who might have avoided this part of the world, ACP makes communications between you and your counsel inadmissible in court. In big companies, it’s somewhat common to bring lawyers into discussions under the auspices of seeking legal advice, but primarily to ensure that if any artifact from that discussion were to be uncovered by an adversary, it couldn’t be used in a lawsuit.
Was there ever any doubt? They’ve been trying to tie devices to identities for years now. This is just the end game.
The funny thing is, it’s kinda hard to prove that surveillance based ads actually work. Ad platforms like to throw numbers of how may people see ads around, but it’s hard to actually tie those numbers to sales. What’s worse is that the way these ads are bought, sold, and how ad placement is commodified means that everything remains intentionally vague to the people buying ads. In most cases, all they know is that “everyone is doing it” and “making lots of money” and if they don’t they’ll be left out of the revenue party.
Right now, enough people are still drinking the kool-aid that it’ll remain a safe revenue stream for companies like Meta unless something happens that hurts the cash flow of their customers. But, it kinda makes you wonder, if the vagueries of the online add ecosystem caused companies to reconsider the investment during an economic crisis, how would these ad platforms that have recently gotten very cozy with fascists make money?
good old reddit, must have been a real wrench for you
wait a second what are you doing reading reddit in the first place?
traitor! impure!
Actually, it was a hackernews link originally.
But for some interest-based subs, I still stick my nose in a hoover up knowledge without contributing back. Considering I janitored about 30 niche subs before the appageddon, I think they’re net negative since I left roughly about when you did. I was probably replaced by a bot, so maybe they’re happier.
Social media is optional. Quit relying so much on the internet for entertainment. Sail the high seas. Arr.
Wish the platform owners didn’t make enough money shearing sheep that they can use it to fuck it up for the rest of us.
wow great post
If you’re also trying to avoid github because Microslop, looks like this is further hosted on https://tboteproject.com/, with a decentralized repository on https://tboteproject.com/git/hekate/attestation-findings
And… It’s gone. What the fuck?
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