Edit: Also please tell me if a meme is even allowed as the thumbnail for the post in this community - just feels like it gets some of my current desperation across :D
Since the last time I posted here sharing my new home server, I’ve gotten a little more acquainted with the services I’m using. After getting acquisition of shows and movies sorted, I ventured into music (streaming).
As many here, I’m used to using streaming services for music, ie. Spotify or YouTube Music. Naturally, I tried a similar approach by setting up my Arr stack to feed its music into Jellyfin where the music is picked up by Symfonium. I tried it out for a couple days and liked it quite a bit since it keeps my phone clean of “unnecessary” data but I still retain access to music. Unfortunately, the way I acquire my music limits my selection quite a bit unless I venture into torrenting, which I’d prefer not to. So unless I figure out a safe way to torrent on my server, I’m stuck with getting access to a very limited selection of artists and albums.
In addition to that limitation, there’s also the files formats of the music. Most of the music I’ve downloaded was only available in FLAC, which is awesome if you’ve got the bandwidth and data plan for playback, but for me it means that I spend 3GB of data for a day of streaming music which is just not sustainable.
In comparison, I can set up a Revanced version of Spotify in addition to my Revanced YT Music to get access to all the music I could want. Unfortunately, that comes with the caveat of still being tied to the companies I’m trying to get rid of - albeit not financially anymore, but I’m still sharing my data.
Ultimately, I’m not sure what to do. What I love about self-hosting is the independence from all the companies we’re being fucked over by in all kinds of imaginable ways. But if it’s free, outside my sharing data with them, can I really compete?
I’d be interested in hearing your opinions and thoughts on this. How did you solve music streaming with your build?
Por qué no los dos?
spotify and google will figure out a way to block modded apps eventually.
nobody can take your home server and its content away from you
Bum music off of Spotify and save up for a home server in the meantime, got it.
I use Tidal and Bandcamp
I’m hearing great things about Quobuz
Bandcamp and Quobuz allow you to buy and download music
And I have to mention, as I do in any thread like this: If you self-host music you bought you’re a friend to me. If you pirate from billionaires, I don’t care. If you pirate from small bands, stop it.
I’ve mostly gone with pirating. I’ve built a massive library of flac songs, as for when I’m outside I can’t stream cause I’m stuck with ADSL, but I usually keep some albums I’m into on my phone and I also use Grayjay to discover new music.
Self host, takes less time then you think after the initial library build. Easy to do in a weekend. If you have some money to spend on music then buy music from the artists you love. Can all be in one place, none of this exclusive garbage, quality as high as you want, can rip music that’s never been released digitally, and I think most importantly - access to your music library without an algorithm telling you what to listen to. You’ll be surprised how your listening habits change and how well you know your music after jumping off the engagement treadmill.
why not both?
Mp3 collections never stopped being cool, you just have to invest some time into it
Soulseek has far more music on it than you can typically find on free public torrent sites.
Just a heads up.
i also only download flac files, and i keep them in my
~/music/losslessdirectory. i use picard to organize that, and wrote a bash script to keep a synchronized opus format copy in~/music/lossy. on my phone i use termux/ssh to rsync the lossy files to my phone and avoid streaming altogether. for reference, my lossless directory is 221gb, and lossy is 19gb.Use Navidrome for music and transcode mp3 streaming. Done and dusted.
That’s a different problem than access to music which I’ll leave up to you. But I’ll note that music exists out of the sphere of corporate dominance. And by that I mean, artists that self publish.
I find it interesting how quickly one abandons the principle struggle central to the meme on this post. Like, “I use Linux and don’t give corporations a dime but I LOVE Jay-z”
I’ve seen so many people suggest that that I’m honestly ashamed I just didn’t know Jellyfin and Navidrome could do that. I guess the file sizes are sorted then.
The thing is, what I’m using is good shows and movies but music isn’t that much of a focus. Maybe if I used a different indexer that’s “dedicated” to music, that’d not be a problem. So that leaves me with torrenting or Soulseek, the former of which I have experience with, but it’s unsafe unless you use a VPN, and the latter of which I don’t and don’t know how to set up on my server (yet) because I don’t know how Docker, containers and whatnot work. CasaOS is very user-friendly like that, but I don’t really know how to import or deploy programs in general. That’s what made even make the post in the first palfe because I felt stuck, not knowing how to proceed now. Falling back to year-long habits is just easier instead of overcoming challenges and growing with them is the gist of it.
I agree. I guess growing up in capitalism, it’s justdifficult to outright abandon every single habit you’ve built up overnight. It takes time and patience and as long you’re aware of it and try to move in a good direction, that’s good enough for me.
-arr stack is your friend. Read up on VPN kill switch. Isolate via docker networking. Run unbound DNS resolvers with dnssec.
What time is it? Key question of the movement
I do both.
The music I like is in my collection. I pay for it where I can, but I’ll be honest some of it is pirated because I just can’t buy it anywhere.
I also use Opentune to listen to YouTube music without logging in to stream stuff like “lofi chillhop beats”.
I recently saw around here a music discovery service (self-hosted) I might try. Can’t remember the name…
Use the left to find content, use the right to consume the content.
there is a hidden button called bandcamp, idk where you can get music to stream maybe api server that use your free ytmusic and spotify solutions)
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I have a very similar experience, I still use Spotify and YT to discover new music, but I then torrent it (or find it on soulseek) to keep my jellyfin collection growing. I also buy off bandcamp since that’s pretty convenient to fill in my favorite albums.