Our fight, it is no exaggeration to say, is the civilized world’s fight. It is a fight for reason and comity in the affairs of nations, against an administration whose worldview, and behaviour, is increasingly that of an aggressive dictatorship, in all its crudeness and its thuggery.

Mr. Trump, as the Prime Minister has said, aims to “break us,” a phrase with historic echoes. He has to now, or others will follow our lead. If he succeeds, then the world will be governed by nothing but force in the end, in trade as in other matters. But if we prevail, then “broad and sunlit uplands” must surely await.

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    EU, Japan, now do the same. It is insane to submit to Trump’s threats, he will always be back for more.

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      Canada and EU has CETA. It’s been active but the deal still needs final approval from national parliaments in 10 out of 27 EU member states. These countries need to get their thumbs out of their asses. If Europe wants to deal with US aggression, they need to stop the glacial movement of their governments.

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    Contrast this with how other countries have responded to American threats. Japan, which relies on the U.S. for 3 per cent of its GDP, nevertheless agreed to a 15-per-cent baseline U.S. tariff – down from the 25-per-cent tariff it was facing otherwise – while committing to invest US$550-billion in the U.S., increase purchases of U.S. energy and agricultural products, and provide greater access for American cars.

    The European Union, with an exposure to the U.S. similar to Japan’s and an economy two-thirds the size of the U.S.’s, likewise buckled, making a long list of concessions – no tariffs on U.S. industrial goods, wider access for U.S. agricultural products, and increased purchases of U.S. energy, AI chips, and defence equipment, in addition to US$600-billion in investment – “in return for” agreeing to U.S. tariffs of 15 per cent.

    Been watching in dismay as this unfolded. Blatant betrayal of people’s interests. I expected quite a bit more from the EU especially. I expected more than from our gov given how much more exposed and infiltrated we are.

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    Come on Canada, PLEASE kick his orange ass and show the world what a stupid sack of shit he is.

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    Ah, they’re in Seoul in the pic in the article. I was wondering why he had an earpiece in, and if maybe Carney was speaking only French as a fuck you.

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    I like the photo they chose to share along with the article. The look on Trump’s face is one I recognize. Its of someone faking a though attitude.

    That’s the one thing people should learn about Trump. If you peel away his impulsivity, temper tantrums and complete incompetence at government, what you’re left with is a showman.

    Trump is all about theatrics. The insults, the intimidation and the threats all mask the fact that he’s playing with an empty hand. The meeting with Xi, the war with Iran and now this spat with Carney, they all revealed his empty hand.

    This is the beginning of the end for Trump’s foreign policy. Maybe even for Trump himself.

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    Canada is great, they passed healthcare for all, equality for LGBTQ+ people and ended cannabis prohibition, while usa still lags badly in these areas and more. It’s due to the frequent regression with maga, so can’t make sustainable progress in all these areas.

    Quality of life in states is decreasing again and lowest among other rich nations, falling farther behind China in tech too. maga will double down and try to do like Argentina, but it will lead to more decay for most of us if they get their way. Stuck and held back by the same anti-science, anti-liberty and justice for all, high-control, low-level thinking, to benefit those with the power and wealth.

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        He can choke to death on fully synthetic breakfast syrup. That matches his level of sophistication.

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    He picks a fight with random countries every week. Bets are open for the next week.

    It was China, then the EU, then Spain, then Greenland, then Iran, then Italy and now Canada

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      Oh. I’m presure it won’t be China. In case you missed they hold american economy by the balls now (( check the las oil crisis and why it didn’t hit as hard as it should)).

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        This is somewhat accurate. They hold the whole world by the balls right now but are completely silent and ultimately complicit with what is going on. They are part of the problem, not the solution.

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    Happy to see Carney make the right call. I worry that we will need to invest in missile defense systems soon…

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      That would be stupid. Look at the size of the border. If we are going to drain society buying war toys we would end up like the USA.

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        That’s fair, I’m not in favour of military equipment, only scared. If Ukraine hadn’t had missile defense systems they would be ashes by now and I worry about that happening here. Do you have a better suggestion?

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          A good portion of Ukraine is ashes and Zelenskyy is now sucking up to Elon Musk.

          War and “defense” never accomplishes anything. USA only cares about money so a coalition of countries to counter US tariffs will accomplish more than killing other people’s kids.

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        I generally am of the same inclination on this but I don’t have a good answer to what do we do if they are about to start bombing. Have a nuke deterrent?

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            Oh agreed completely, I was rather asking what’s your thought process (hypothetical or otherwise) in that context if you’ve had any.

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    Europe, the UK, Asia, Africa and the rest of the planet need to just stop easing the USA with their destructive actions that affect Americans and the rest of the world.

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    Actually, Canada has been taxing American goods at insane rates for decades. It’s been Canadian “tariffs we don’t really call tariffs” kind of sneaky BS. Protectionism at its finest. I’ve been to Canada and bought Budweiser and Marlboros at 3x the price they cost in America (and 4x the cost of their Canadian counterparts), with the border just 20 miles away.

    But when the shoe’s on the other foot, Canada cries like a little baby.

    As much as I don’t like Trump, it is fun to watch Canada take a dose of its own medicine. And here’s the kicker – America doesn’t need Canada. At all. In fact, Canada is an expense for us. So I say shut the border entirely. It won’t hurt the US one bit.

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      Trump is posing an existential threat to our sovereignty, but you’re mad that you had pay more for your Bud and smokes when visiting Canada?

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        Existential threat? Really? If tariffs are existential threats, then Canada has been exitentially threatening the US for decades. They’ve been tariffing us for years and then you complain when we return favor. Grow up.

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        No sweat, we’ll just stop importing your syrup and electricity (which really only makes up 11% of electricity used in a couple locales/towns). We don’t need you. At all.