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    I hate the ‘tolerance’ word used like this. No we don’t need to be tolerated we need to be respected as human beings with human rights.

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    What’s up with young men and fascism? I feel like fascism (as found outside the ruling class) is less a political philosophy or movement than it is a simple expression of human nature. It’s all so bare and obvious, the othering, scapegoating, rallying around an invented enemy. Hell, it’s so primitive, I bet it predates human divergence. I’ve seen ducks suddenly decide one of their own flock has to die, and a bunch of the males mob them. I doubt it’s THAT far removed.

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      Young girls, too. Their decrease is even bigger:

      Gonneke Stevens, principal investigator of the HBSC research and professor of Youth Welfare at Utrecht University, indicates that in the period 2021-2025 among boys in secondary education, the percentage with a positive attitude towards homosexuality has fallen from 40 to 22 percent. “Girls are more positive about this, but this percentage has also fallen sharply among them. Among girls in secondary education, this is a decrease from 78 to 51 percent.”

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        probably because it’s pushed on them, and teenagers resent what is pushed on them.

        when i was a teenager being gay was horrible and bad, and if you didn’t think that you were rebellious and cool.

        now being gay is celebrated and lauded, and teens probably feel rebellious and cool by being against it.

        it’s the same with drug use. drug use has dropped a lot among teens because it’s been normalized by adults and it’s not cool.

        further there is a huge uptick in gender extremism for both men and women, fueled by social media influencers and the kids love that shit. you have teenage boys thinking they need to be body builders and teenage girls thinking they need butt lifts.

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      28 days ago

      What’s up with young men and fascism?

      Brain-rot rots brains. It is that simple.

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            Propagandists are just like any other groomer, they pick their targets carefully. Why would you choose someone like me, a 40 year old woman with decades of established politics and ideology you’d have to fight against when you could pick a young malleable person who’s still actively forming their opinions. I’m a lot more difficult to influence to believe in things that are against my best interests, not to say I’m immune to propaganda just that the bang for your buck is a lot bigger with younger less informed people.

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            And why would you specifically target a population? Doesn’t that also suggest that young men are especially vulnerable to fascist ideas? Doesn’t answer the question, just moves it slightly.

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    I bet my hat it’s social media.

    I’m sure many will point to specifics, like bigot influencers thriving on controversy. Or, to play devil’s advocate, the forces astroturfing LGBT support that are clearly inauthentic.

    But ultimately it’s all because LGBT controversy is too much of a lightning rod for the engagement algorithms to resist. That’s why it’s rising amongst children.

    The EU needs to ban or restrict that kind of social media unless it wants to become a network of Nazis.

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    For context, when they say LGBT tolerance has dropped, its dropped to the level it was in 2008. So its not the overall level of tolerance that’s worrying, but the fact that it dropped so radically in such a short period of time.

    I suspect the numbers reflect the influence of social media and right wing extremism. The influence of the manosphere is pretty evident. But I suspect the numbers also reflect the anti-‘woke’ sentiments being stirred up by right wing extremist parties like the PVV and the FVD. Even the more convential right wing party, the VVD, is constantly crusading against ‘woke’.

    Because of that the LGBT community often ends up in the crosshairs of right wing extremist politicians.

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    I read somewhere that re-traditionalization is an Europe-wide trend.

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      It’s not “re-traditionalization”

      It is scapegoating by the usual suspects and all of the funding comes from the same pedos.

      The fact everyone is blind to this is so terrifying to me and I just can’t fathom how people have gotten so far in life without learning any history and current events

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      Problem is that when you go back to the.“traditional” usa for example, some parts of europe were already woke at that point. Theres no “traditional” france you can go back to without beong completely ridiculous if the whole traditional thing wasnt ridiculous enough already.

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      That’s pure cosplay. Traditionalism where it excludes others but not where it would impact their own life or hold themselves to any standard.

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      Strange, the people in this is community are always so receptive and reasonable when I say Euros are going fascist.

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      times are shitty for average people.

      when times are shitty people want to go back to the how things were, when they were better.

      it’s a feature of human beings generally. it’s not soceity specific. human beings don’t like chaos and unpredictability. and nothing about modern life the past decade has been predictable or regular.

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    The problem isn’t that people are LGBT. The problem is that a small section of them want to ram the whole fucking rainbow flag waving pride and “I’m special, these are my pronouns” bullshit down the throats of people whether they want it or not. That breeds resentment in people to the point it can make otherwise supportive people remove that support.

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      I’m tired of hetero relationships being shoved down our throats.

      Mickey and Minnie Mouse. Superman and Lois Lane. Shrek and Fiona. The breeder mindset bullshit being forced upon us whether we want it or not. /s

      As long as people are getting imprisoned or killed for being gay or anything besides cis and straight, you can sit the fuck down and shut up. The problem is you.

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      Let me know when people stop murdering people for being LGBTQ+ and we can talk. Until then, I suggest you sit the fuck down and fucking learn a little bit about human rights.

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      Even if that’s true, that’s not a reason you support parties that take away their rights…

      Also social media is responsible for that kind of image of LGBT folks. I’ve talked to plenty, and most of them are sweet people. The activity pub, the protocol that runs this platform has several of their developers that are LGBT.

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      Gay marriage is the biggest societal improvement since the end of feudalism and aristocracy. Why aren’t you excited?

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        where i live people are very angry that polygamy isn’t legalized and go to the city council and given speeches about how is monogamy is oppressive and cruel.