• Lembot_0004@discuss.online
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    4 days ago

    Many governments are astonishingly dumb. If I were in charge and wanted to make pro-Israel politics, I would let them demonstrate whatever they want. Just would keep completely ignoring those demonstrations and avoid the theme altogether.

    Peaceful demonstrations are completely useless, no need to fight them.

    Luckily, most governments are dumb.

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        3 days ago

        In most cases, they don’t. And if they do, then the government can use the police. Why provoke people before they even try to do anything?

        In my culture we have an expression “to let the steam out”. Peaceful protests are, actually, counterproductive because they instill a feeling like something meaningful has been done, while in reality they just let the pressure out. Every tyrant should LOVE peaceful protests.

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          Yeah well I just put posters on the wall explaining the police brutality I witnessed. It’s not much but it’s something i guesd

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    4 days ago

    I detest the current Italian government and their attitude towards propal protesters (and dissenters in general), but October 7th is the one day when manifesting for Palestine should be put on hold.

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      Once the genocide is over, it would indeed be a day to respectfully observe. In the middle of one however, that’s an obscene thing to ask. The people murdered by Israel on Tuesday, the people who starved on Tuesday, the people who got injured, amputated, displaced, traumatized as a result of Israeli aggression on Tuesday, they don’t deserve less of an outcry just because of a commemoration. To say otherwise is mindblowingly dehumanizing. Palestinian lives matter exactly as much as Israeli lives.

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      3 days ago

      Would italy ban pro israel protests on everyday israel or the settlers killed palestinians

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        IDK what they would do in that regard (if we are talking Meloni’s government, nothing), but it would be sensible to stop pro-Israel protests that were likely to become pro-genocide ones.

        Anyway, we are talking about this specific day and this specific protest; drawing arbitrary generalizations (that also happen to be very convenient for your cause) is a sophism that does not help discussion to progress. Let’s strive to be better than the right-wing idiots.

        edit: by “right-wing idiots” I mean “right-wing people who also happen to be idiots”, I’m not implying here and not that all right-wing people be idiots.

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        3 days ago

        Killing civilians that just happen to be at a location is not called an uprising, it’s called a massacre.

        I understand being enraged towards Israel (I am enraged myself), but let’s not allow that to make us as idiotic as those who believe Netanyahu’s BS.

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          Ah yeah they “just happened” to be near a concentration camp.

          Whining about the 7th of October is genocide denialism at this point. It’s implying the genocide was deserved.