Yeah no fuck off

I think your view is a bit optimistic - centers in North Africa won’t fix the systemic issues with our border policies. Frontex absolutely does send people back to places where they face torture and sexual violence. They’ve been repeatedly documented performing illegal pushbacks in the Mediterranean and the Aegean.

They’re actively pushing people back to Libya where EU-funded detention centers are effectively torture camps. And Frontex continues illegal pushbacks regularly despite court rulings against them.

There’s extensive evidence of this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/03/libya-migrants-tripoli-refugees-detention-camps

I understand wanting to believe we’re better than this, but the facts don’t support it. The “we’re decent people making mistakes” narrative is comforting but doesn’t hold up when you look at the policies we collectively support through our governments.

About the “high value migrants” thing - that’s exactly my point about how our immigration system works. We welcome people based on economic utility, not humanitarian need. We’ll roll out the red carpet for an American engineer but let Syrian doctors drown.

And this economic utility approach is still fragile - when the economy turns, even the “high value” migrants become scapegoats. Just look at how Brexit campaigns targeted Polish doctors and Eastern European professionals despite their contributions.

I feel like we have absolutely zero vision for the future. Like, there’s trade wars, actual wars going on. Russia and Israel are committing genocide and are ignoring the ICC. Most of the EU is cool with that, either because they support Israel or worse they support Israel & Russia both. So we basically abandoned international law and with that humanity itself, and for what? Short term political gains.

Instead of capitalizing on the influx of skilled & motivated people from all over the world we chose to give in to hate and violence a long time ago. With the help of frontex we let the most miserable drown in the Mediterranean Sea, die somewhere in the Sahara or get raped and enslaved somewhere in a Tunisian prison, an Italian farm, or the Belarus border just to mention a few examples. We abandoned humanity there as well and again for what?

On top of that, my country‘s infrastructure is falling apart, people can’t afford housing anymore, healthcare gets more expensive and worse at the same time, and we’re basically a tech colony with all the American and Chinese tech dominating our lives. These countries also don’t give a fuck about humanity, but they produce innovation. What kind of innovation are we producing? We have Spotify, great.

I see no vision either about what our values are (there are no credible ones), nor about what our business model during this new industrial revolution should be and how people should be able to make a living in the future. It’s so fucking frustrating to watch.

Having humanity and good living conditions could have been a vision in this cruel world, but we aren’t good enough to live it. We failed.

Wish you all the best! You can get citizenship very quickly and my advice to you would be to get that asap and then think about what you wanna do with your life. My friends in Germany all work on their exit plan. They’re all skilled immigrants but find the situation there very scary right now. The fascists are back.

Speak for yourself, I welcome everyone with open arms who doesn’t want to live in a right wing shithole. Although people talking shit like you do are turning the EU into a right wing shithole as well unfortunately.

Frontex literally sends them back to get raped & tortured and literally is the reason thousands per year drown in the Mediterranean Sea. We hate migrants, that is a European core value.

Not convinced? After 2nd world war, Germans even hated German refugees. Since then, migrants in Western/Northern Europe have been 2nd class citizens. Brexit went through partly as a campaign against migrants from Poland & Romania.

Still not convinced? It’s not about cultural compatibility or religion or skin color or anything. Ukrainian refugees have been met with empathy because of their skin color and religion at first (but we‘re _ definitely_ not racist and sorry for saying the quiet part out loud). However, in countries like Poland, Hungary and Germany who took on most of the refugees politicians already started using Ukrainians as scapegoats and the hate mongering hit them too.

Think it will be different with Americans? They’re gonna be the ones who took our jobs, always act entitled, destroy our work culture by always being available and ruining the housing market (as if that weren’t already fucked up). To an extent, this is how we see Americans already.

We are a racist, backwards continent. I wish it were different, but this is who we are.