• plyth@feddit.org
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    4 days ago

    Could it be that you missed the sarcasm?

    If so, are you sure that you see the game that is played?

    • Bazell@lemmy.zip
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      4 days ago

      Even if it is sarcasm, seeing something like this is still very unusuall. I know that there exist people in Lemmy.ml that are against political policies of local admins, but they usually do not show it openly.

      • freagle@lemmy.ml
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        4 days ago

        I’ve spent the last couple years on the grad and on lemmy.ml and not a single one of them is delusional enough to believe that the Russian military is capable of invading Europe. The budgets, the materiel inventories, the enlistment numbers, the logistical vulnerabilities, none of it indicates that Russia could invade Europe, and none of it indicates that Putin is directing industry to create the military necessary to invade Europe. There have been no intelligence reports by any of Russia’s adversaries nor Europe’s allies that indicate Russia is preparing or has intentions or has the capability to take over Europe.

        The lack of critical thinking lies pretty firmly with the Russophobes who can’t seem to decide if Russia is so weak it has to send soldiers to Ukraine without weapons and armor and force them to pick up gear from dead Russian soldiers on the way, or if Russia is an international threat that could roll all the way to France unless Europe spends hundreds of billions on defense. That’s a lack of critical thinking. That’s called cognitive dissonance. The enemy is both weak and strong.

          • freagle@lemmy.ml
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            4 days ago

            Does it need to? Does it care? It might deploy to Belarus, which is friendly, in order to protect against a new front opening up in the region, but it doesn’t need to invade the Baltics for some megalomania.

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                    4 days ago

                    Read the official statements of the Russian government. Compare them to the official statements of the Ukraine government. Compare them to the official statements of the US government. That’s a pretty good start.

                    Then you can read about WW2, and compare the difference between the Russian invasion of Ukraine with the Third Reich invasion of the Rhineland and then compare the Russian invasion of Ukraine with the Third Reich invasion of Poland. You’ll note that the invasion of the Rhineland was met with no real resistance, much like the Russian invasion of Crimea. Then you’ll note that the invasion of Poland was met with much resistance and kicked off major combat operations, much like the Russian invasion of the Donbas. But then you’ll note that there is a HUGE difference between what happened after the invasion of Poland and what has happened since the launch of the Russian “SMO”. And that should give you a pretty good understanding of what it looks like when someone is a fascist and hell bent on dominating all of its neighbors, and that should give you a pretty solid footing for assessing whether Russia is proceeding along a similar path.

        • MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
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          4 days ago

          Well, Europe should strengthen its defense either way. Because if Russia is not the enemy, then the real threat is the US… and that’s even worse.

          • freagle@lemmy.ml
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            4 days ago

            Then you have learned nothing. The leaders of Europe and the leaders of America are the same people. They run the world. They need you to be nationalists so that you won’t join with the rest of the masses and depose the leaders. European states don’t need to defend themselves from the US. European workers need to dismantle the entire European project and join in the mass movement against the dominators

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                4 days ago

                It’s in Burkina Faso and the AES. It’s in China and Vietnam and the DPRK and Iran. It’s in Venezuela and Colombia. It’s in the global movements for communism. It’s in the local movements for decolonialism, anti-racism, and anti-capitalism.

                It’s a movement you have to build in your home country. It’s a movement I have to build in my home country.

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                    4 days ago

                    If you don’t understand the history of the DPRK as fundamentally a resistance history against US psychopathy, you should read more about it. The Japanese brutally occupied the peninsula. The US took over for the Japanese after they dropped nukes on them. The Soviets and the Chinese, being the long term historical neighbors of the peninsula were ready to help Korea rebuild resist occupation. But the US decided that this could not happen, and decided to bomb North Korea a until there were no more buildings and drop napalm in large strafing runs that forced Koreans to live in caves.

                    And then the Koreans rebuilt. It’s been what, 70 years? They went from literally completely scorched earth, poisoned land, to an actual function society while under total economic seige conditions from the West.

                    No sike. The DPRK is a full on resistance history.

            • mrbutterscotch@feddit.org
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              3 days ago

              And here we have the typical .ml take. Europe and the US are not the same people. They don’t run the world. Dismantling the “European Project” would be one of the biggest hits to global democracy today.

              And saying Europe is not threatened by the US in its current state is plain wrong. The Greenland affair shows this perfectly.

              • freagle@lemmy.ml
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                3 days ago

                The US is literally the final torchbearer of the European global empire. From language to food to religion to fashion to architecture to white supremacy to racism to sexism to fascism to banking and finance to agriculture to child-rearing to education to philosophy. It’s the same continuous process. The US broke away from European governance, but not from the historical process of European empire.

                Europe has lived off the spoils of 600 years of conquest. It will have to be unwound. The power structures will need to be dismantled. The wealth will need to be rematriated. Truth and reconciliation will be required. And it will hurt, because Europeans have benefited from brutal white supremacist empire for so many centuries that they don’t even recognize it