Honest question, because I know multiple people who are not looking to jump ship since they already have the Plex Pass.
I’m afraid of exposing HTTPS to the open internet.
This is all a fascinating thread because everyone says Plex “just works”
I started using jellyfin about 6 months ago. I don’t really know anything about plex use. However, jellyfin worked out of the box for me. Set up with a docker container and have never had any problems with it.
Its never failed to load media, or loaded duplicates or any of the other random things others have mentioned here.
For the most part it feels like people in the thread have just used Plex for a long time and had their first impression of jellyfin years ago and probably haven’t checked it out since.
Which, fair play to them, life gets busy and setting up and migrating a media library is something that takes at least a couple hours which could be spent doing anything else.
If people are new, I’m sure they won’t even bother with Plex and their ridiculously high fees. I cannot see Plex maintaining their userbase at this rate.
With them unable to maintain their userbase, I give it a year before they cancel lifetime passes and 2 years or so before it’s completely enshitified and unusable.
I’m at the user level of “people keep saying docker… what the fuck is a docker?” -looks it up- “this explains nothing.”
Plus, I got lifetime Plex a while back, and can use it to stream videos to my remote classroom for examples in class.
yeah as a former plex user I can confirm the setup is way more annoying. for me “just works” means I spin up the container, point it at my media library, and I’m done. never had to make an online account or pay for anything with jellyfin. I agree with ppl that say the plex web UI and native apps are more polished but that’s about the only positive
JellyFin resource usage is absolutely horrendous and my NAS is a potato. I basically cannot run it at all.
I run it on a raspberry pi4 that is also my pihole and after turning off transcoding its runs beautifully. Running in a docker container. With 1tb ssd attached via usb 3 the whole setup cost me about £100 and has been working for about a year now.
Jellyfin is great and I run both. However, sharing access with family is a PITA compared to Plex. I paid for Plex Pass lifetime at the $75 and have no reason to fully move. Keeping Jellyfin around in case Plex tries to rug pull lifetime passes, though.
I set up tailscale on my jellyfin box and my family can use their phone to access the server by turning on tailscale (just open the app and toggle it on then open jellyfin) and cast to their Tv. Not as smooth as plex but works for us and the tailscale means its all encrypted.
I used Emby for a couple years right before they went closed source which spawned Jellyfin and it was fine in some area (though not as polished) and better in others, but securely sharing remotely was always a huge hurdle which is not something they’ve found a solution for.
I have a lifetime pass so I have no reason to switch as of yet. Migrating people over like my elderly parents is going to be a nightmare if it ever comes to that.
Lifetime pass, it still works well so why would I switch?
Same here, but I am also maintaining jellyfin alongside it. In case Plex decides that “lifetime” means something other than what I expected it to mean. I’ve long ago gotten my $80 of usage out of it.
Jellyfin is… ok. It works, it works consistently, and it is consistently almost great. But I provide “cable replacement” and “streaming supplement” services to family that doesn’t live in the same house, and will all likely break a box that managed a VPN.
Given the above, we’ll ride out Plex until they go nuts. Hopefully jellyfin will be polished enough for child use by then.
After 22 hours and 291 comments, I can see that 80% is sunk cost, 15% never bothered to look at their Jellyfin client’s settings, and the rest use a device that doesn’t have a client for Jellyfin yet.
Using a product that you paid for long ago that still works just fine doesn’t really fit the bill of the “sunk cost fallacy.”
I didn’t say fallacy. I said sunk cost. I’m not judging. It’s a legitimate sunk cost if it is indeed rationally better to keep using it rather than stopping.
I don’t have a lifetime pass; I pay the monthly subscription. I would prefer to use Jellyfin, but Plex works better and the Jellyfin app on Apple TV is abysmal. That’s pretty much it. If Jellyfin worked better, I’d switch, but I’m not suffering through it for some principle against paying for software.
You should try out Emby. As someone who likes getting paid I think people who work hard should also get paid. So I paid for Emby :)
I use Plex to save money on plumbers because I cannot solder. Plex gives me the ability to exact repairs myself.
Oops! I meant PEX. Kindly disregard.
Jellyfin doesn’t have a client/app for my Samsung Frame TV
When did you last check? I believe jellyfin apps made it onto tizen OS a few months ago
I like Plex.
When I bought my Plex lifetime pass I saw it as an investment. So far, it’s paid off handsomely.
I’m still getting great experiences, able to access it from anywhere in the world, on basically any device, seamlessly and simply.
I get it that the jellyfin community is really excited about their thing - I just am not.
I’ve run jellyfin, it was kind of cool I guess, but there was nothing compelling about it. So I uninstalled it. What is jellyfin’s “must have” feature, anyway?
I wouldn’t go out and build a new car when I’m perfectly happy with my 10-year old sedan. If you’re expecting me to go through that just because the new ones cost more than I spent years ago, you’re insane. I wouldn’t go and re paint my house just because the old company now charges new customers more for their paint.
I paid for it, it works well. There’s no reason (except all the FUD I keep seeing on lemmy,) to even think about dismantling and recreating it with something new.
Keep building your dream tool Jellyfin people - Godspeed, but your community should target acquiring net-new users instead of trying to scare and poach happy users away from what they already have.
I started with jellyfin, and eventually let my partner convince me to pay for a lifetime pass for Plex. Plex just has better functionality. Not only can I access my library from anywhere, the subtitles work without fiddling with different srt files, the error messages are much more descriptive, and I find the documentation for adding OTA antenna and DVR functionality much more comprehensible with Plex.
I like jellyfin for what it is, but Plex makes it all work with far less headache and much better support. So Plex wins, in my mind for now.
And with all that being said, I got my Plex lifetime pass a few years ago, so the value I have will not be the same as yours if you are just now starting to consider Plex, so I can understand why you might have a different opinion
Subtitles are the main reason for me
The official JF apps do struggle a bit with subs, but 3rd party clients have solved that issue for me completely. I use kodi and wholphin on android tv and findroid on my phone.
I see so many here with the argument of 'I already have a life time pass, so this increase doesn’t affect me". And in all honesty, that’s a mostly logical take on this if you already have it.
However, the signs are clear. This is a first step. I don’t believe (and I’m very aware I could be wrong) for a second that the executives are actually expecting people to grab a pass for 750 dollars, but they expect a minimum amount of people to go ahead and do it anyway. Once they see this conversation is dying down, and that no money is coming in on that end, they will switch to another method of getting money (the investors need their money, right?).
From there, the sky’s the limit. Charge extra if your instance has more than 3 users, or charge the users that are not you. Cap your quality at 720p unless you fork over 2 dollars per month. Pay for this new AI feature that is not included in your pass. Pay to disable this AI feature that was forced into your pass.
For pass holders there is no problem with this increase, it’s what invariably happens when companies start moving towards the money grab path.
We’ll just watch from the sidelines and will be here to help you migrate once (not if) these things happen.
We’ll just watch from the sidelines and will be here to help you migrate once (not if) these things happen.
Would be nice if you guys could do that quietly. Not every change in how Plex does business needs to echo through social media. We’ll let you know when the time comes.
I think the thing is, every news cycle there IS a few people who’s time has come. And so jellyfin is brought up
I say this as someone who has a plex lifetime and is still using plex. I appreciate everyone getting riled up and passionate, because that means the fallback will be that much more polished when my time comes.
You sound like someone pulling up the ladder and yelling at the people below to shut up. Anyone new to the space is dealing with this absurd $750 lifetime price. Of course they’re yelling
It’s like the standard ”I use Arch btw” meme, but maybe there are too many Linux users on Lemmy so these people need to find a new way to feel special.
Would be nice if you guys could do that quietly. Not every change in how Plex does business needs to echo through social media.
I’ve never seen a bunch of pretentious assholes react so hard to a product they don’t use so loudly. not even Linux vs Windows users are this insufferable.
then you have an actual JF developer stirring the shitpot up with posts like this.
I really don’t mind them capitalizing on this, the echo chamber just makes it super annoying.
I’ve never seen a bunch of pretentious assholes react so hard to a product they don’t use so loudly.
Very apt way of putting it.
Here’s another meme that came to mind:
I’ve still got my Plex up, I only use it for Plexamp though, and my brother watches stuff on it (lifetime pass since forever). I quit watching stuff on it because in order to log in you have to hit Plex’s servers (even when logging in directly to the self hosted server); that doesn’t work for me because we block them at work. If they would let me use my own IdP, I’d probably stay. At least with Jellyfin I can authenticate how I want.
I tried Jellyfin and had some issues with it. I tried out Emby and everything was smooth sailing. Paid for premium and been using it ever since.
It’s a bit better supported on TVs than Jellyfin.
Never actually used or paid for plex
