I’m looking for something that can do chat, video calling with support for guess links and chats. I need it to work in the browser so I can send people a link to a chat session. Bonus if it has a simple mobile app and calendar integration.
Anyone know of something that isn’t Nextcloud Chat?
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I use jami but i dont think it fits your need for guess links.
Still leave it here just in case
Jami is a free/libre, end-to-end encrypted, and private communication software.
Jami is a stability and security nightmare
I wouldn’t recommend it
Please tell us more about the actual security problems!
Care to expand on that? I am seriously considering that as part of my post-skype future.
Im using it for 3 months now and I did not notice any stability issue. One time I experienced a long delay in receiving a message.
Do you have any details on why its a security nightmare?
All communications are peer-to-peer and end-to-end encrypted.
Huly is pretty amazing and has a self host option. It supports chats and video calls, team rooms, and has some cool integration for speech to text note taking. It also functions as a task tracker.
Under super active development right now so host only if you can deal with occasional breaking changes.
Considering
- nearly a
curl|shsetup - to run supply-chain risks
- of supply-chain risks
- for something without an immutable artefact and thus is its own supply-chain risk
It’s already breaking ISO27002 in a few ways. I’m out.
- nearly a
What’s their revenue model? Thanks for sharing
They have a SaaS option as well, I’m guessing that’s the main revenue plan.
You want either mattermost or the whole matrix stack (backend, plus element with voice/video calls).
Matrix/Element is more of a discord alternative, whereas mattermost tries to be more of a slack alternative, where it seems to have some calendar integrations.
There is no way to do what teams does without significant infrastructure. Same with Slack and others.
If you want something that just gets close to the mark, look at Jitsi. It’s about as complete as you could expect for just video/voice.
What you may not understand about conferencing platforms is that they are dozens of different hosted services working together to provide a cohesive UE. Video, SIP, VOIP, auth, identity…these are all separate services that are deployed as microservices to get what you get. If you find the bare minimum of the services you actually need, you can probably cobble something together, but it’s not going to be a simple running of one service to get the same experience.
If you want something to mangle the formating on his Office documents there really is no alternatives available sadly. Chat there is.
I’m hosting a matrix server with a TURN server and it’s fairly easy to selfhost. This sounds exaggerated.
Do you need Element for that? Also is there a way to do guest access with a link?
You can allow guest accounts, although it’s disabled by default in synapse.
Call supports depends on the client you’re using. Element is usually ahead in features implementation, but you can get a list of clients and filter by features in the matrix website.
Also I’m not sure what the other person meant by easy to setup. Matrix servers are notoriously hard to setup when compared to anything most things you would find yourself selfhosting, specially with WebRTC/TURN. I think there’s an ansible playbook somewhere, but I never tried it.
That just covers voice/video. OP is asking about a lot more.
And chat. But yeah, no groupware.
Video+chat is all I’m wanting for the most part
It isn’t that hard. All I’m looking for is a chat/video call service. Jitsi is close but it purely does video calling. I want something that is a chat where guests can join a group with a link. That shouldn’t take much. (It didn’t with Nextcloud)
Then write a howto instead of asking here. That shouldn’t take much.
Honestly I might put that on my list of cool projects
It is easier than you think. There are libraries that do Firewall/NAT traversal automatically so the hard part would be making the UI
It is easier than you think.
I never said how easy I think it is so what are you basing this response on?
Well if “it shouldn’t take much”, then it shouldn’t be hard to find a solution, right?
I’m now wondering why you’re here asking this question if you fully understand what you’re asking about.
It’s not hard. Just Teams but self-hosted. Free would be ideal.
/s
Right? I just want to self-host something like Google and all their services, but free. It also has to run on an AMD K6-2 with 1GB of DDR1 RAM and under 20GB for storage. Please don’t ask me any questions, I know exactly what I’m doing.
Jitsi is close but it purely does video calling.
Not sure what you mean by that. Turn off the camera and you’ve got an audio chat.
I want something that is a chat where guests can join a group with a link.
That’s exactly how Jitsi works.
Signal is not self hosted but they also support videoconference style calls.
Jitsi is closer to Zoom than anything else
I’m looking for the chat plus the ability to start a call
I see. What about Matrix?
- no enterprise packaging
- java?
I mean, that’s two strikes, but I know the people whom 8x8 bought in like 2019 so there’s hope. Like, wow, their video-conf app and service was astoundingly good.
We use this at work. Great for screen sharing and video chat
Self hosting allows you to improve screen share framerate
I haven’t tried it myself but Mattermost offers most of what you’re looking for.
I think a gitlab install has most of mattermost inside it, and that means installation and updates are handled. I found the install of MatterMost via its devs used to be very naive, but the gitlab people did something right in vendoring it into their massive install. Gitlab-ce is bloated as heck, but it’s fire-and-forget on the proper platform and may allow inter-org linking with or without the matter bridge thing (which itself affords some interoperability).
I think Mattermost is intended to be just that.
If you don’t mind seperated tools that do well in their own :
- Zulip for chat
- Jitsi for video meeting
- And whatever calendar you want for the calendar
Anyone know of something that isn’t Nextcloud Chat?
Do you absolutely need to put ONE tag on it all and say this is it?
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