Due to the large number of reports we’ve received about recent posts, we’ve added Rule 7 stating “No low-effort posts. This is subjective and will largely be determined by the community member reports.”
In general, we allow a post’s fate to be determined by the amount of downvotes it receives. Sometimes, a post is so offensive to the community that removal seems appropriate. This new rule now allows such action to be taken.
We expect to fine-tune this approach as time goes on. Your patience is appreciated.
This is fine if the post is something insanely low effort.
But I do worry if this ends up being too aggressive.
One of the things that made reddit so awful is how over moderated it was.
I don’t really take issue with dozens of posts by newbies asking the same basic question over and over. I used to be one and am occasionally back there again if I start a new hobby. Hopefully newcomers don’t get pushed off by overly sensitive moderation.
It would be helpful if you could provide a hypothetical example of what is considered a “low effort” post.
I don’t really take issue with dozens of posts by newbies asking the same basic question over and over. I used to be one and am occasionally back there again if I start a new hobby. Hopefully newcomers don’t get pushed off by overly sensitive moderation.
I’m not sure if I agree with this, unless you need clarification on something specific the forum like nature and search should allow you to find answers to previous questions without asking it again.
But I do agree overmoderation is bad. I swear if communities start implementing a karma system…
I couldn’t agree more, I join selfhosting communities all over and not just because I need more stuff to host, because of the community. I love getting to read through the questions and answers, even when they are questions that could be answered by just reading the man page… Maybe it just reminds me of the good old days as I’m getting older and remember asking a lot of similar questions.
I’ve seen slightly offtopic posts deleted here, even after some interesting conversation in the comments. I think Lemmy is small, and it could help the platform if conversations and posts are preserved even if they are not 100% on topic. But I respect the work of mods, it’s their decision how they run a community, even if I don’t agree with them all time.
But just as a backup, if things take an unexpected turn, here are some similar, but much less active communities:
- !selfhosted@sh.itjust.works
- !selfhosting@slrpnk.net
- !homelab@selfhosted.forum
- !selfhosting@eviltoast.org
- !SelfHosted@europe.pub
This is also to the “low effort” posters, if you disagree with your post’s removal you can post it to other similar communities.
Thanks for sharing the other communities. I have used this forum a lot and there are some great helpers here. I really hope things don’t get a bad turn. We really need these forums to help newbies. We’ve all been there. You could argue that the typical newbie question “where do i start?” Is “low effort” but simply reading all the answers about how others approched self hosting has given me so much benefit.
Does this include Youtube videos? Or at least Youtube videos without a clear description and summary?
Those constant ad money farming posts really lower the quality of this sub.
If the quality of the video is good, I like to see it here.
At minimum there should be a good description of what the video is about, with no clickbait.
But how would you know before watching?
“Based on the upvotes and comments” Oh then others doing the work to watch it and rate it on lemmy for you.
Imo, when a link to a video or forum or whatever is posted, then at least a summery or a discussion should be included.
Seems okay-ish if it removes all the AI slop and spam quickly. The mods already have the technical power to dictate things, so this rule change just make their actions tie more closely to their management reputation
I can understand the potential problems of trying to define “low-effort post”. In contrast can guidelines be given for a “quality post”. If no guidance on either end is given it may discourage some people from posting anything. Maybe people can contribute what they see as indications of a “quality post”.
Wait, is this about the posts from melonhusk@sh.itjust.works? We don’t need a new rule for that, they were spamming.
Edit: I am also concerned that there are no mod responses so far. Seems like this is a proclamation, not a discussion.