• Bazell@lemmy.zip
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    4 days ago

    You can’t even imagine how rare it is to see that the Lemmy.ml user doesn’t blindly support Russia and has some critical thinking.

    • plyth@feddit.org
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      4 days ago

      Could it be that you missed the sarcasm?

      If so, are you sure that you see the game that is played?

      • Bazell@lemmy.zip
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        4 days ago

        Even if it is sarcasm, seeing something like this is still very unusuall. I know that there exist people in Lemmy.ml that are against political policies of local admins, but they usually do not show it openly.

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          4 days ago

          I’ve spent the last couple years on the grad and on lemmy.ml and not a single one of them is delusional enough to believe that the Russian military is capable of invading Europe. The budgets, the materiel inventories, the enlistment numbers, the logistical vulnerabilities, none of it indicates that Russia could invade Europe, and none of it indicates that Putin is directing industry to create the military necessary to invade Europe. There have been no intelligence reports by any of Russia’s adversaries nor Europe’s allies that indicate Russia is preparing or has intentions or has the capability to take over Europe.

          The lack of critical thinking lies pretty firmly with the Russophobes who can’t seem to decide if Russia is so weak it has to send soldiers to Ukraine without weapons and armor and force them to pick up gear from dead Russian soldiers on the way, or if Russia is an international threat that could roll all the way to France unless Europe spends hundreds of billions on defense. That’s a lack of critical thinking. That’s called cognitive dissonance. The enemy is both weak and strong.

          • MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
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            4 days ago

            Well, Europe should strengthen its defense either way. Because if Russia is not the enemy, then the real threat is the US… and that’s even worse.

            • freagle@lemmy.ml
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              4 days ago

              Then you have learned nothing. The leaders of Europe and the leaders of America are the same people. They run the world. They need you to be nationalists so that you won’t join with the rest of the masses and depose the leaders. European states don’t need to defend themselves from the US. European workers need to dismantle the entire European project and join in the mass movement against the dominators

                • freagle@lemmy.ml
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                  It’s in Burkina Faso and the AES. It’s in China and Vietnam and the DPRK and Iran. It’s in Venezuela and Colombia. It’s in the global movements for communism. It’s in the local movements for decolonialism, anti-racism, and anti-capitalism.

                  It’s a movement you have to build in your home country. It’s a movement I have to build in my home country.

              • mrbutterscotch@feddit.org
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                3 days ago

                And here we have the typical .ml take. Europe and the US are not the same people. They don’t run the world. Dismantling the “European Project” would be one of the biggest hits to global democracy today.

                And saying Europe is not threatened by the US in its current state is plain wrong. The Greenland affair shows this perfectly.

                • freagle@lemmy.ml
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                  The US is literally the final torchbearer of the European global empire. From language to food to religion to fashion to architecture to white supremacy to racism to sexism to fascism to banking and finance to agriculture to child-rearing to education to philosophy. It’s the same continuous process. The US broke away from European governance, but not from the historical process of European empire.

                  Europe has lived off the spoils of 600 years of conquest. It will have to be unwound. The power structures will need to be dismantled. The wealth will need to be rematriated. Truth and reconciliation will be required. And it will hurt, because Europeans have benefited from brutal white supremacist empire for so many centuries that they don’t even recognize it