• ruuster13@lemmy.zip
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      26 days ago

      No. That would make Putin an instant pariah. He wants his little toy army to fight NATO’s little toy army before he dies.

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          26 days ago

          Russia is not under threat from the West. Only its government is. Putin knows this. Starting a nuclear war would not help him; it would expedite his downfall.

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        26 days ago

        With which fleet should they be able to conquer it? How can they maintain a supply line to hold it?

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            Sorry but that’s propaganda. Even Trump will be reasonable when the cameras are off.

            But even if Russians are pure emotional irrationality, they still have to obey physiks and have to handle Nato or EU explosives. They can’t protect their refineries. How should they protect a fleet in the baltic sea when Nato controls all shores and the entrance and Nato has three times more submarines there?

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              Trump, reasonable? Have you not heard any of the stuff that was leaked by his white house staffers?

              Attacking Ukraine itself was not a reasonable decision and as you say: they are currently loosing that war. So likely losing a war seems not be a factor that stops the Russian government from its decision if they are high enough on their own fumes.

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                  China has said that they cannot afford Russia to lose.

                  I fail to see why that would be the case. I feel they would actually benefit from a beaten and isolated Russia.

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                  While it certainly could be that the people surrounding him do apply the madman theory at times, his behaviour can be pretty well explained by narcissism and dementia alone. It’s not like Trump is a particular smart individual with long term planning. He is as stupid as he appears, the problem is just that apparently that’s exactly on the level of a third of the USA population.

                  And regarding Chinese support: that applies to your own doubts in your earlier comment regarding supply lines as well. So either you think China is supporting Russia no matter what or you don’t. But please stop jumping around.

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    25 days ago

    Hasn’t that been the right-wing Putin-sponsored narrative all along - throwing Ukraine under the bus so that Russia doesn’t get desperate and start a nuclear war?